From GemOJungle at aol.com Wed Sep 3 08:28:45 2008 From: GemOJungle at aol.com (GemOJungle@aol.com) Date: Wed Sep 3 08:29:15 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] Life-Saving Testing Banned - Mad Cow Screening Message-ID: Life-Saving Testing Banned - Mad Cow Screening "Inconsistent" with U.S.D.A. Agenda Written by Tiffany Sanders Monday, 01 September 2008 04:19 Back in 2006, a meatpacking company in Kansas had a great idea: it would test every cow for bovine spongiform encephalitis (BSE), commonly known as "mad cow disease". It was a great idea because the U.S. Department of Agriculture (U.S.D.A.) tests only a very small percentage of cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat beef from infected cattle. Creekstone Farms Premium Beef was willing to undertake the testing of every cow at its own expense. In fact, the company built a laboratory and sent its employees to France for training with the company whose test kits it intended to use. But then Creekstone ran into a problem: test kits for BSE could be sold only to laboratories approved by the U.S.D.A., and the U.S.D.A. said no to the testing. In fact, although the division later sought to explain away the statement, a senior veterinarian with the U.S.D.A.'s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) told a reporter that Creekstone could face criminal liability if it tested its animals for BSE. Creekstone sued for the right to test its own cattle for the deadly disease, and won in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. U.S. District Court Judge James Robertson-the same judge who authored the District Court opinion in the groundbreaking Guantanamo case, Hamdam v. Rumsfeld, and resigned from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in apparent protest over President Bush's decision to use wiretaps to gather information about U.S. citizens without first seeking court approval-ruled that the U.S.D.A. had exceeded its authority under the 1913 Virus-Serum-Toxin Act. Robertson's opinion made good sense, since that statute was intended to protect against substandard veterinary care, and the animals in question were being tested after they were dead. Creekstone did not propose to replace or interfere with U.S.D.A. testing of its beef. Rather, as a purely supplemental measure, it proposed to perform additional testing to ensure the safety of its beef. The concern, rather, seemed to be that Creekstone might use the additional testing as a marketing point-it might, in short tell people that all of its beef had been tested. That, the U.S.D.A said, was "inconsistent with USDA's mandate to ensure effective, scientifically sound testing for significant animal diseases and maintain domestic and international confidence in U.S. cattle and beef products." In other words, it might make the companies that didn't choose to test every animal look bad, and consumers and other countries to which U.S. beef is exported might notice that Creekstone beef was safer than other U.S. beef. Unfortunately, this past week the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia bought into that argument, and Creekstone (along with any other meatpacker that might get some crazy idea about making sure that its meat was safe for human consumption) is legally prohibited from testing its cattle. So we might be at risk for "mad cow disease" and see our brains waste away, but at least we don't have to worry about those big meat packing companies feeling pressured or anything, right? **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080903/3a7e3578/attachment.html From Jungletouch at comcast.net Wed Sep 10 17:43:48 2008 From: Jungletouch at comcast.net (Jungletouch) Date: Wed Sep 10 18:42:46 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] (no subject) Message-ID: <005901c91396$b2143260$183d154c@gary> Hi All, This rescue is in need of donations. They are in a voting competition for a $5000.00 grant from PetFinders. Please vote and forward to anyone who can help. They have been paying everything out of pocket and are up too 100 cats pulled from kill shelters. Link and directions below. Gary PetFinders is giving away a $5000 grant to the shelter that receives the most votes. PLEASE! Go to http://www.petfinder.com/disasterprep and vote for us. When the voting window pops up, please enter Arizona from the drop down menu. The put Kingman as the City and choose the Exotic Heritage Cat Association of America as your shelter of choice. We really need the funds. We have 46 cats that we recently took in that need to be spayed and neutered (at approximately $100 each). We also need money for our TNR program. There is no donation necessary for you, personally. All you need to do is vote for us. Thank you, in advance, for your help. Arden Morley Exotic Heritage Cat Association of America -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080910/557bacd7/attachment.html From MySayber at aol.com Wed Sep 10 19:31:55 2008 From: MySayber at aol.com (MySayber@aol.com) Date: Wed Sep 10 19:32:13 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] (no subject) Message-ID: PetFinders is giving away a $5000 grant to the shelter that receives the most votes. PLEASE! Go to _http://www.petfinder.com/disasterprep_ (http://www.petfinder.com/disasterprep) and vote for us. When the voting window pops up, please enter Arizona from the drop down menu. Hey I tried to vote the site said I had cast a vote already I have never been to that site or voted, this is the message below I was given ???? I could not vote sorry We received your submission earlier. Thanks for voting! Close Window **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080910/d9479cd4/attachment.html From Jungletouch at comcast.net Wed Sep 10 19:35:07 2008 From: Jungletouch at comcast.net (Jungletouch) Date: Wed Sep 10 19:35:23 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010001c913a6$3e056690$183d154c@gary> The site has been doing that apparently. Sucks for the people trying to get funds for the animals. Gary 707-874-1146 Jungletouch@comcast.net www.jungletouchexotics.com Web Design Web Hosting Graphics Design Magazine Ad Design _____ From: felines-l-bounces@catbox.com [mailto:felines-l-bounces@catbox.com] On Behalf Of MySayber@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:32 PM To: felines-l@catbox.com Subject: Re: [FEL-L] (no subject) PetFinders is giving away a $5000 grant to the shelter that receives the most votes. PLEASE! Go to http://www.petfinder.com/disasterprep and vote for us. When the voting window pops up, please enter Arizona from the drop down menu. Hey I tried to vote the site said I had cast a vote already I have never been to that site or voted, this is the message below I was given ???? I could not vote sorry We received your submission earlier. Thanks for voting! Close Window _____ Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080910/f9634466/attachment.html From bczion13 at aol.com Wed Sep 10 20:15:11 2008 From: bczion13 at aol.com (bczion13@aol.com) Date: Wed Sep 10 21:05:04 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CAE1C2F8A39C91-15D4-18AA@webmail-ne08.sysops.aol.com> Write to the webmaster.......or contact they will fix it...... -----Original Message----- From: MySayber@aol.com To: felines-l@catbox.com Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 5:31 pm Subject: Re: [FEL-L] (no subject) PetFinders is giving away a $5000 grant to the shelter that receives the most votes.? PLEASE!? Go to http://www.petfinder.com/disasterprep and vote for us.? When the voting window pops up, please enter Arizona from the drop down menu.? ? Hey I tried to vote? the site said I had cast a vote already I have never been to that site or voted, this is the message below?I was given ???? I could not vote sorry We received your submission earlier. Thanks for voting! Close Window Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. _______________________________________________ Felines-L mailing list Felines-L@catbox.com http://www.breuckman.com/mailman/listinfo/felines-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080910/3eb2f409/attachment.html From Jungletouch at comcast.net Thu Sep 11 13:30:28 2008 From: Jungletouch at comcast.net (Jungletouch) Date: Thu Sep 11 13:30:46 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <028701c9143c$779497f0$183d154c@gary> HI MySaber, The site is fixed, so voting is OK now. You can also vote once a day. Here is an email from public relations. Dear Gary, Thank you for writing. We are sorry for the technical glitch you experienced yesterday while trying to vote. The problem has been corrected and we ask that you please visit www.petfinder.com/disasterprep to vote. You can vote once a day - every day! Thanks so much for helping your local organization! -Cary Cary Moran Public Relations Coordinator Cary@Petfinder.com http://www.petfinder.com PetFinders is giving away a $5000 grant to the shelter that receives the most votes. PLEASE! Go to http://www.petfinder.com/disasterprep and vote for us. When the voting window pops up, please enter Arizona from the drop down menu. THen put in "Kingman" Then the Exotic cat Heritage Asso. Gary 707-874-1146 Jungletouch@comcast.net www.jungletouchexotics.com Web Design Web Hosting Graphics Design Magazine Ad Design _____ From: felines-l-bounces@catbox.com [mailto:felines-l-bounces@catbox.com] On Behalf Of MySayber@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:32 PM To: felines-l@catbox.com Subject: Re: [FEL-L] (no subject) PetFinders is giving away a $5000 grant to the shelter that receives the most votes. PLEASE! Go to http://www.petfinder.com/disasterprep and vote for us. When the voting window pops up, please enter Arizona from the drop down menu. Hey I tried to vote the site said I had cast a vote already I have never been to that site or voted, this is the message below I was given ???? I could not vote sorry We received your submission earlier. Thanks for voting! Close Window _____ Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080911/1ec0bb53/attachment.html From MySayber at aol.com Thu Sep 11 13:52:45 2008 From: MySayber at aol.com (MySayber@aol.com) Date: Thu Sep 11 13:57:38 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] (no subject) Message-ID: TY **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080911/70842e9f/attachment.html From GemOJungle at aol.com Sat Sep 13 11:14:35 2008 From: GemOJungle at aol.com (GemOJungle@aol.com) Date: Sat Sep 13 11:14:59 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] Leopard skin haul: 27 found in just 45 days Message-ID: Leopard skin haul: 27 found in just 45 days 12 Sep, 2008, 1055 hrs IST,Avijit Ghosh, TNN NEW DELHI: From the border outposts of north Bengal to the small towns of Uttarakhand to the remote forest-rich district of Gondia in Maharashtra -- 27 leopard skins have been seized across the country in the past 45 days indicating an untrammeled wildlife trade of the protected species. The latest seizure took place on last Tuesday in Jaigaon, a small kasbah on the Indo-Bhutan border, that has been recently the setting for several cases of wildlife trafficking. "We had been tipped off about the skins. The carriers collected the consignment from a fruit seller's shop in the market. They were about to slip away in a private vehicle when we nabbed them," says district forest officer Ujjwal Ghosh on phone. Two Bhutanese were arrested with three leopard skins. One skin was that of a female adult with apparent bullet injury marks. The remaining two skins were stripped off cubs barely 7-10 days old. "The Bhutanese were carriers. We are trying to expose the larger racket," says Ghosh. Wildlife experts say that at least 120 leopards have been poached in 2008 and that the recent hauls (between July 27 to September 9) indicate organized gangs at work. Leopard poaching is being reported from all parts of India and can never be treated as isolated incidents, says Tito Joseph of Wildlife Protection Society of India. "It's the handiwork of organized professional poachers who are networking with wildlife traders in India, Nepal and China . Most of these poachings took place in Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh, Maharashtra and Karnataka , " he says. The past six weeks has also seen three separate incidents of leopard skin seizures in Uttarakhand's Vikasnagar town, about 40 km from Dehradun. The latest incident took place on August 14 where three leopard skins were seized. "The three skins were nine and half feet, eight and half feet and seven and half feet long," says Devender Rawat, sub-inspector , STF, who was in the raid team. The leopards were to be traded for Rs 50,000 each though the final market price of leopard skins is usually almost the double of this sum, he adds. Tito Joseph believes that speedy trials are imperative to dismantle these illegal trading networks. "Let us not forget that most organized wildlife criminals are repeat offenders," he says. THREATENING TREND At least 120 leopards were poached in 2008. 150 hunted in 2007 Poachers networking with wildlife traders in India, Nepal and China Most poachings take place in Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Maharashtra and Karnataka **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080913/8382ba7e/attachment.html From MySayber at aol.com Sun Sep 14 19:12:06 2008 From: MySayber at aol.com (MySayber@aol.com) Date: Sun Sep 14 19:12:20 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] Leopard skin haul: 27 found in just 45 days Message-ID: Two Bhutanese were arrested with three leopard skins. One skin was that of a female adult with apparent bullet injury marks. The remaining two skins were stripped off cubs barely 7-10 days old. "The Bhutanese were carriers. We are trying to expose the larger racket," says Ghosh. breaks my heart **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080914/7c3c7c9f/attachment.html From gwill17423 at aol.com Tue Sep 16 10:25:26 2008 From: gwill17423 at aol.com (gwill17423@aol.com) Date: Tue Sep 16 12:53:54 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] help.... helpppp please Message-ID: <8CAE6279455220E-990-60E@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> my? brother mike kujawa owns the crystal beach zoo in texas.. ike devasted the homes of two big cats.? a bengal tiger, and a lionness... mike is held up in a church and refusing to leave without the cat on the land.? noone is willing to help the lion or knows where the tiger is... please i got our address from his email.. contact me if you can help rescue him and the animals 409 502 8443 linda kujawa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080916/4b203554/attachment.html From bczion13 at aol.com Tue Sep 16 21:34:29 2008 From: bczion13 at aol.com (bczion13@aol.com) Date: Tue Sep 16 22:04:19 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] help.... helpppp please In-Reply-To: <8CAE6279455220E-990-60E@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CAE6279455220E-990-60E@webmail-de15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CAE6850B1EAE7B-144C-1CB0@Webmail-mg20.sim.aol.com> here it is.... http://news.aol.com/article/riding-out-ike-on-an-island-with-a-lion/177167 -----Original Message----- From: gwill17423@aol.com To: felines-l@catbox.com Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 8:25 am Subject: [FEL-L] help.... helpppp please my? brother mike kujawa owns the crystal beach zoo in texas.. ike devasted the homes of two big cats.? a bengal tiger, and a lionness... mike is held up in a church and refusing to leave without the cat on the land.? noone is willing to help the lion or knows where the tiger is... please i got our address from his email.. contact me if you can help rescue him and the animals 409 502 8443 linda kujawa Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? Get AOL's ultimate guide to fall TV. _______________________________________________ Felines-L mailing list Felines-L@catbox.com http://www.breuckman.com/mailman/listinfo/felines-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080916/e76b7a2a/attachment.html From lmorin67 at earthlink.net Thu Sep 18 00:11:57 2008 From: lmorin67 at earthlink.net (Laura Morin) Date: Thu Sep 18 00:11:46 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] RE: help.... helpppp please Message-ID: <380-2200894185115778@earthlink.net> Any updates? Is he ok?? Was the tiger found? Caging gone? Flooded? Did he not evacuate? How many more animals were there? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: felines-l@catbox.com Sent: 9/16/2008 8:05:54 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [FEL-L] help.... helpppp please here it is.... http://news.aol.com/article/riding-out-ike-on-an-island-with-a-lion/177167 -----Original Message----- From: gwill17423@aol.com To: felines-l@catbox.com Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 8:25 am Subject: [FEL-L] help.... helpppp please my brother mike kujawa owns the crystal beach zoo in texas.. ike devasted the homes of two big cats. a bengal tiger, and a lionness... mike is held up in a church and refusing to leave without the cat on the land. noone is willing to help the lion or knows where the tiger is... please i got our address from his email.. contact me if you can help rescue him and the animals 409 502 8443 linda kujawa Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? Get AOL's ultimate guide to fall TV. _______________________________________________ Felines-L mailing list Felines-L@catbox.com http://www.breuckman.com/mailman/listinfo/felines-l Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? Get AOL's ultimate guide to fall TV. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080917/ecda8614/attachment.html From tagiar at earthlink.net Thu Sep 18 07:15:20 2008 From: tagiar at earthlink.net (Donna ) Date: Thu Sep 18 07:16:24 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] Riding Out Ike on an Island, With a Lion Message-ID: <3849-220089418121520406@earthlink.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com Sent: 9/17/2008 10:23:42 PM Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] Riding Out Ike on an Island, With a Lion Riding Out Ike on an Island, With a Lion By ALLEN G. BREED , AP BOLIVAR PENINSULA, Texas (Sept. 16) - Many years from now, a small group of Hurricane Ike survivors will probably still be telling the story of how, on the night the storm flattened their island, they took sanctuary in a church — with a lion. The full-grown lion was from a local zoo, and the owner was trying to drive to safety with the animal when he saw cars and trucks stranded in the rising floodwaters. He knew he and the lion were in trouble. He headed for the church and was met by a group of residents who helped the lion wade inside, where they locked it in a sanctuary as the storm raged. The water crept up to their waists, and two-by-fours came floating through broken windows. But the lion was as calm as a kitten. When daylight came, everyone was still alive. "They worked pretty well together, actually," said the lion's owner, Michael Ray Kujawa. "When you have to swim, the lion doesn't care about eating nobody." Amid the destruction in places like Bolivar Peninsula and Galveston, where row upon row of houses were scoured from the landscape, seemingly impossible tales of survival have begun emerge. Whether through faith or fate, luck or resourcefulness, dozens of people who stayed behind made it out alive, and have harrowing stories to prove it. As of Tuesday, the official death toll from Ike stood at 47. Only 17 were in Texas — and many of those were people killed by fires or generator fumes after the storm had passed. However, authorities held out the possibility that some victims were washed out to sea. Among those who made it out alive was Kathi Norton, who put on a life jacket as the storm closed in on High Island, on the Bolivar Peninsula. She and her husband, Paul, knew the dangers of staying, and put their important documents, credit cards, money and cell phones into a plastic bag, and held on tight. All too quickly, the floodwaters rose and the house started to break apart. Through the gaps, they saw refrigerators, lawn mowers and hot tubs floating past. The deck broke away next. Then the roof started to buckle. "The whole floor was just opened out," he said. Norton grabbed his wife and headed for an outdoor staircase, escaping in time only because a flagpole kept the house from crashing down for a few precious seconds. "I look up, the house is coming on us," he said. For hours, they sloshed around in 4-foot waves before finding themselves perched in a tree. They finally made their way onto someone's motor home, which then started to sink. They were able to cling to rafters of a nearby structure and hang on until daybreak. "We had to grab that staircase and float wherever it took us," the 68-year-old retiree said. Willis Turner decided to ride it out on his wooden boat next to his house on Crystal Beach, also on Bolivar Peninsula, but it nearly capsized and he was saved by a rope his wife tossed to him. The two held on inside a home that she said "vibrated like a guitar string." "It was like an atomic bomb going off. Right after the eye passed, whole houses came by us at 30 miles an hour — WHOLE HOUSES! — just floating right past," Turner said. "It was unreal. Unreal." Turner and his wife awoke the next day to an island they no longer recognized. The first four rows of houses on the beach were washed into the sea. There were no more restaurants, no more gas stations, no more grocery stores. The neighborhood was gone. In Galveston, Charlene Warner, 52, weathered the storm with her landlord and a neighbor in the apartment above her own. "It felt like an earthquake — the rumbling and the rocking of the building," she said, smoking outside a shelter in San Antonio. "Everyone was praying." "It was so terrible. All I could say was, 'Lord, please don't kill me. Forgive me for what I done,'" Warner said, as a tear rolled down her cheek. After the storm, she and neighbors waited for rescue, but no one came. The water receded, leaving a layer of muck filled with snakes. But with no water, no electricity and a shrinking supply of food, Warner decided to go for help, sliding her way across the goo a block and a half to the fire station. Firefighters took her and neighbors to a spot where they could get on an evacuation bus. She arrived at a shelter in San Antonio with her purse stuffed full of personal documents and cigarettes, and one spare outfit that she washed and drip-dried on a railing Tuesday. "I lost everything. What you see with me is all I have," she said. "I never seen anything like that in my life. I'll never ride out another storm." Cheryl Stanley said she and her husband, Tom, wanted to evacuate their Galveston apartment before the hurricane hit but couldn't. Their son, Casey, has cerebral palsy, and the three live on the third floor. When they tried to leave, the elevators were turned off, and they couldn't carry Casey down the stairs. "It was horrible," Cheryl said. "The building was shaking all night." A few hours into the storm, Casey said he didn't feel safe in the bedroom, so they moved him to the living room. About three hours later, the ceiling in his bedroom collapsed. "Thank God, we got Casey out of there," his mother said. After the storm passed, paramedics carried Casey downstairs. And neighbors carried the wheelchair. At the Baptist church on Bolivar Island where the lion spent the night, Richard Jones, a shrimper, said he wasn't afraid of the beast. "That little old fella is just as tame as a kitten," Jones said. After the storm passed, the lion's caretakers fed it pork roast to keep it happy. National Guardsmen dropping off food and water lined up Tuesday in the choir loft to get a glimspe of the lion, and the soldiers jumped back when the lion looked up from it perch on the altar and snarled. Jones said he hadn't stepped foot in a church in the 40 years he has lived on this spit of land. And he wasn't ready to call his survival divine intervention. "I drink beer and chase women, gamble, cuss," Jones said. "You can't call that religion. I'm either too good, the devil won't have me, or I'm so bad the Good Lord won't take me. That's a good toss-up." _http://news.aol.com/article/riding-out-ike-on-an-island-with-a-lion/177167_ (http://news.aol.com/article/riding-out-ike-on-an-island-with-a-lion/177167) **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. 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Check it out and see.. __,_._,___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080918/a118ad21/attachment.html From GemOJungle at aol.com Sat Sep 20 15:29:24 2008 From: GemOJungle at aol.com (GemOJungle@aol.com) Date: Sat Sep 20 15:29:38 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] Food or slaughter? Bushmeat fuels wildlife debate Message-ID: Food or slaughter? Bushmeat fuels wildlife debate Tue 16 Sep 2008, By Tansa Musa YAOUNDE (Reuters) - An acrid stench of burning hair hangs in the air as a whole monkey roasts over an open fire, a victim of the trade in tropical "bushmeat" that conservationists agree must be curbed, though they disagree how to do it. Around 25 diners sit on bamboo chairs at this open air restaurant on the outskirts of Cameroon's capital Yaounde, waiting for a plate of monkey, pangolin or bush pig washed down with red wine, beer or aromatic freshly tapped palm wine. Environmentalists say the hunting and trade of endangered animals from the world's tropical forests must be reduced if rare primates and other species are to be saved from extinction. Some campaigners want a total ban on bushmeat or at least on its commercial trade. This would allow local people to hunt only fast-breeding, non-endangered species to feed their families. But a report published on Tuesday said such blanket bans would fail and, if enforced, deprive poor families living in forest regions of much-needed nutrition and cash earnings. The report by the Secretariat of the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity said legalising parts of the bushmeat trade could dispel the stigma attached to it, aid regulation and help efforts to save endangered species. "Bushmeat, in particular, offers a number of benefits to forest-dwelling populations. It is an easily traded resource as it is transportable, has a high value/weight ratio and is easily preserved at low cost," the report said. A survey a few years ago estimated 70-90 tonnes of bushmeat a month were being sold in Yaounde's four main markets. Across West and central Africa, the trade is worth as much as $200 million, and $175 million in Latin America's Amazon basin. Supporters of a more general ban say regulating sales of some animals but not others would be too complicated. "Hunting and trade that is sustainable for a cane rat is not necessarily sustainable for an ape," Heather Eves, director of the Washington-based Bushmeat Crisis Task Force, told Reuters. "There isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that there is the financial or technical capacity or political will to assure a regulated trade that could effectively assure a sustainable trade of just rats and not apes," she said. ANIMAL PART APHRODISIACS The international trade in bushmeat is small but there is growing expatriate African and Asian demand, the report said. Often it is linked to the lucrative global trade in animal body parts believed to have secret powers or employed in medicines, such as gorilla meat or rhino horn -- long used as aphrodisiacs. Smart cars parked outside an exclusive restaurant in Yaounde bear witness to the bushmeat trade's wealthy connections. Elegant waitresses offer patrons a menu of mainly common game -- pangolin, antelope, bush pig, monkey, cane rat and viper -- at prices of 5,000-10,000 CFA francs a dish. But in a fridge outside, a Reuters reporter saw two arms of what appeared to be a gorilla or a chimpanzee -- thick black fur and hands still attached -- together with a piece of what a restaurant employee said was elephant meat. "If you want to eat meat of big animals like chimpanzee, gorilla and even the elephant, you make a special arrangement with her and she will supply it to you," a military officer who frequents the restaurant said of the owner. "She has hired hunters in forest village communities to whom she supplies ammunition and they supply the meat," he said. Cameroon has some of the region's strictest anti-hunting laws. Critics say that, as elsewhere, they are rarely applied. "It is outrageous that the majority of these countries do not even have a single prosecution," said Ofir Drori, founder of the Last Great Ape Organization Cameroon. "If the wildlife trade was the drugs trade, then central Africa would be like me and you sitting in Bogata," he said. ? Reuters 2008. All Rights Reserved. | Learn more about Reuters Calls for bushmeat ban rejected James Morgan Science reporter, BBC News Bush pigs, duikers, and monkeys for sale, at Makokou market, Gabon A blanket ban on bushmeat hunting in Central Africa would endanger both humans and animals, says a new report. If current hunting levels persist, many species will be extinct in less than 50 years, says CIFOR - the Centre for International Forestry Research. But bushmeat provides up to 80% of protein and fat needed in rural diets. Giving locals the rights and incentives to hunt sustainably would protect their livelihoods and save forest mammals from extinction, claims CIFOR. "The bushmeat crisis is not only a crisis of extinction, it is is also a crisis of livelihoods and food security," said Frances Seymour, director general of CIFOR, speaking to the BBC. If local people are guaranteed the benefits of sustainable land-use and hunting practices, they will be willing to invest in sound management Frances Seymour, CIFOR "Criminalising the whole issue of bushmeat simply drives it underground. "We need to decriminalise parts of this hunting and trade and give local communities the rights and incentives to manage these resources sustainably for their own benefit." 'Important' species CIFOR estimates that the annual harvest of bushmeat in Central Africa amounts to more than one million tonnes - the equivalent of four million heads of cattle. According to the report, large mammal species are particularly vulnerable. An Epassendje boy with a cane rat, in Gabon Many - such as elephants, gorillas and other primate species - have already become locally extinct. But CIFOR warns that existing policies designed to "crackdown" on hunting are often counter-productive, as they "effectively outlaw" the hunting of rodents and other fast-breeding species that are not under threat of extinction. Overall, international trade in wild animal products has an estimated value of US$3.9bn. For West and Central Africa alone, the estimates range from $42m to $205m a year. Yet, these statistics are still "largely ignored" in official trade and national policies regulating forest policy, claims the CIFOR report. The authors of the study call on policymakers in the region to develop policies protecting endangered species, while allowing sustainable hunting of "common" game, since there is no clear substitute available if common wild meat sources were to be depleted. They cite successful models in Peru and also in Sarawak, Malaysia, where a ban on trading in bushmeat was complemented with recognition of the hunting rights of indigenous peoples. New perspective "If local people are guaranteed the benefits of sustainable land-use and hunting practices, they will be willing to invest in sound management and negotiate selective hunting regimes," said Ms Seymour. "Sustainable management of bushmeat resources requires bringing the sector out into the open, removing the stigma of illegality, and including wild meat consumption in national statistics and planning. A villager hangs an antelope in Cameroon "Reframing the bushmeat problem from one of international animal welfare to one of sustainable livelihoods - and part of the global food crisis - might be a good place to start." The report - Conservation and Use of Wildlife-based Resources: The Bushmeat Crisis - was produced for the Secretariat of the Convention on Biological Diversity. It will be discussed at the forthcoming IUCN World Conservation Congress, in Barcelona, on 5 October. The study highlights the role of the timber industry in sustainable wildlife management, as around half of the remaining forest in Africa now falls within timber concessions. Future partnership The authors note that European consumers are also "partly responsible" for the bushmeat crisis. "Apart from the direct demand for bushmeat products from expat communities, European demand for African timber exports helps to drive this local timber extraction - both legal and illegal." The report recommends that the local and international timber industry work with NGOs, local communities, and governments to develop forest policies and management plans that incorporate wildlife concerns. CIFOR's recommendations were broadly endorsed by Dr Noelle Kumpel, programme manager, Central, East and Southern Africa Programme, Zoological Society of London, who said: "Unless bushmeat hunting is legalised - obviously within an adequately enforced regulatory framework - it will remain largely unregulated and increasingly unsustainable. "But as well as empowering local people and creating mechanisms for community management of bushmeat, which includes working out what level of hunting is sustainable, we need to direct funds (eg from payments for ecosystem services or carbon) to communities so that they have incentives to do this." **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.breuckman.com/pipermail/felines-l/attachments/20080920/c5a2d0b2/attachment.html From orion2185 at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 23 20:11:49 2008 From: orion2185 at sbcglobal.net (Mike) Date: Tue Sep 23 20:12:02 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] Transport of exotics Message-ID: <1F207DC2-5605-404C-90D0-DAF66A829EE0@sbcglobal.net> Hi Trying to get the current laws regarding exotic animal transport of big cats. Received an offer to perform at a venue in CA. The cats are in MO and need to transport them to do the show. The show will only be for a couple of days. I have not done this type of transport in some years. I'm sure the laws and what not have changed. I'm more experience in taking the overseas via CITES and USDI any help is greatly appreciated. From lmorin67 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 24 10:37:19 2008 From: lmorin67 at earthlink.net (Laura Morin) Date: Wed Sep 24 10:37:27 2008 Subject: [FEL-L] Transport of exotics Message-ID: <380-220089324153719875@earthlink.net> It might vari in each state you go thru. Secure double gated locked cage. Permits, Health certificates etc... What kind of venue? Where? Sounds like it might take you longer to get there then the show is! What kind of transport cages do you have and what type of portable enclosure will you have once you get there? Your own or provided for you? Just a few thoughts.. :-) > [Original Message] > From: Mike > To: > Date: 9/23/2008 6:11:52 PM > Subject: [FEL-L] Transport of exotics > > Hi > > Trying to get the current laws regarding exotic animal transport of > big cats. > > Received an offer to perform at a venue in CA. The cats are in MO > and need to transport them to do the show. The show will only be for > a couple of days. > > I have not done this type of transport in some years. I'm sure the > laws and what not have changed. I'm more experience in taking the > overseas via CITES and USDI > > any help is greatly appreciated. > > > _______________________________________________ > Felines-L mailing list > Felines-L@catbox.com > http://www.breuckman.com/mailman/listinfo/felines-l