[FEL-L] 50 years of doing what

[Cindy D.]

MODERATOR should check this guy out... he's crossed
the line.  We can DISAGREE without DISRESPECT.

This guy doesn't know Jan's credentials (and passion
for this cats)... we won't go into details because Jan
is too worthy for this conversation with this person. 


Even my OBSERVANT 17 year old daughter, who happened
to be with me the day I had the fortune of meeting Jan
in person. said (after hearing about these
conversations online)...

"Jan has the experience, knowledge and certifications
that most of these people would only dream of ever
obtaining."

(She could sooooo "name drop" if she wanted to, but
that is not where her passion lies.... it's in the
well-being of the cats.... BIG cats too... BIG BIG
cats!)

We're seeing jealousy here at it's worst.

This has gone over the line... and is just pure
disrespectly.

JAN - you had better not go anywhere off of this list!
 You're a big asset to us.

cindy d.
california


--- Barry <darksidhe_of_avalon at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Wow Brian I'm speechless.  You are probably the
> rudest jerk I've seen on this list.  Even if you
> didn’t agree with Jan you don't need to be a callus
> ass.  It just goes to show your own lack of
> intelligence and upbringing I guess.  If you have a
> difference of opinion with someone then act like a
> grown up and just state that you don't agree with
> her and leave it.  But then again you can’t expect
> people like yourself to have any class.
>    
>   I personally think you’re the one wrong here and
> would trust Jan's opinion over yours any day as will
> the majority of this list.
>    
>   If your going to make accusations you really
> should be prepared to back them up with facts as I
> believe what you wrote could be considered slander. 
> 
>    
>   Barry
>    
> Brian Werner <tiger1 at tigerlink.org> wrote:
>   Is this you Giacinto?
> 
> If so I find that funny, 50 years of doing what?
> Whoring mutilated big 
> cats out to others for them to work with? Or 50
> years of US F&W 
> violations? Or 50 years of flapping jaw bones? And
> even if 50-years of 
> actual working with big cats I'd question rather or
> not it is accurate 
> just because you made your mistakes over a longer
> time frame than any 
> others. Perhaps you just are slower at learning what
> is the right way to 
> do things? I dont think that you ever worked a big
> cat, especially not 
> for 50 years, if so you would be the oldest largest
> big cat handler in 
> the ring-give it a break.
> 
> And if a big cats not to be trusted than maybe its
> best served that you 
> leave them the hell alone? Of course it hurts them,
> if it didnt hurt 
> than they wouldn't cry when its performed on them
> and it wouldn't 
> cripple them once old age sets in, etc. There is no
> proper way that is 
> not adverse when it comes to amputation of a limb.
> Of course we are 
> talking about contact cats, but no buts!!!
> 
> Just relax and deal with it, you're wrong and you
> know you are wrong.
> Brian
> 
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> 
> From: Cheetahtu at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [FEL-L] altering the big cats
> To: felines-l at catbox.com
> Message-ID: <391.875c8bc.3209122f at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Mr Werner,
> 
> Why are you so one sided? I do not care about ehat
> you just said. It is 
> wrong. A big cat is still a big cat and can not be
> trusted 100 per cent of the 
> time. If he is a working cat and has to work around
> people it is a lot 
> safer to have him declawed then to wait until he has
> hurt someone and has to be 
> put down. Declawing does not hurt them in any way if
> done properly. Just how 
> long have you been working with these cats. I have
> been doing it for over 
> 50 years now and I have seen a perfectly sweet cat
> go bananas over someone and 
> want to kill them. We are talking about contact
> animals not animals that 
> are kept in cages at all times. There are exceptions
> to the rules, BUT???????
> 
> Cheetahtu
> _http://geocities.com/cheethtu_
> (http://geocities.com/cheethtu) 
> (818) 345-5140
> -------------------------
> 
> * Jeannette Giacinto of Tarzana, California was
> fined $525 for illegal
> 
> delivery of an endangered species, namely, an
> ocelot, from California to
> 
> Washington
> 
> 
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