[FEL-L] 50 years of doing what

[Barry]

  Wow Brian I'm speechless.  You are probably the rudest jerk I've seen on this list.  Even if you didn’t agree with Jan you don't need to be a callus ass.  It just goes to show your own lack of intelligence and upbringing I guess.  If you have a difference of opinion with someone then act like a grown up and just state that you don't agree with her and leave it.  But then again you can’t expect people like yourself to have any class.
   
  I personally think you’re the one wrong here and would trust Jan's opinion over yours any day as will the majority of this list.
   
  If your going to make accusations you really should be prepared to back them up with facts as I believe what you wrote could be considered slander.  
   
  Barry
   
Brian Werner <tiger1 at tigerlink.org> wrote:
  Is this you Giacinto?

If so I find that funny, 50 years of doing what? Whoring mutilated big 
cats out to others for them to work with? Or 50 years of US F&W 
violations? Or 50 years of flapping jaw bones? And even if 50-years of 
actual working with big cats I'd question rather or not it is accurate 
just because you made your mistakes over a longer time frame than any 
others. Perhaps you just are slower at learning what is the right way to 
do things? I dont think that you ever worked a big cat, especially not 
for 50 years, if so you would be the oldest largest big cat handler in 
the ring-give it a break.

And if a big cats not to be trusted than maybe its best served that you 
leave them the hell alone? Of course it hurts them, if it didnt hurt 
than they wouldn't cry when its performed on them and it wouldn't 
cripple them once old age sets in, etc. There is no proper way that is 
not adverse when it comes to amputation of a limb. Of course we are 
talking about contact cats, but no buts!!!

Just relax and deal with it, you're wrong and you know you are wrong.
Brian

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Mr Werner,

Why are you so one sided? I do not care about ehat you just said. It is 
wrong. A big cat is still a big cat and can not be trusted 100 per cent of the 
time. If he is a working cat and has to work around people it is a lot 
safer to have him declawed then to wait until he has hurt someone and has to be 
put down. Declawing does not hurt them in any way if done properly. Just how 
long have you been working with these cats. I have been doing it for over 
50 years now and I have seen a perfectly sweet cat go bananas over someone and 
want to kill them. We are talking about contact animals not animals that 
are kept in cages at all times. There are exceptions to the rules, BUT???????

Cheetahtu
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* Jeannette Giacinto of Tarzana, California was fined $525 for illegal

delivery of an endangered species, namely, an ocelot, from California to

Washington



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